July 26 2023: Fravor, Graves and Grusch Testify Under Oath Before Congress — The Key Quotes, the DIA Propulsion Document, and What It All Means
Three decorated military and intelligence officers testified under oath before Congress on July 26 2023. Grusch: ‘The material includes intact and partially intact vehicles.’ Fravor: ‘The technology we faced was far superior than anything we had.’ A classified DIA document on spacetime metric propulsion was submitted to the record. None of this testimony has been refuted under oath.
The Historic July 26, 2023 Hearing
Three witnesses testified under oath before the House Oversight Subcommittee on National Security on July 26, 2023: Commander David Fravor (Ret.), Ryan Graves, and David Grusch. It was the first time decorated military and intelligence officials had testified under oath to Congress about UAP involving non-human craft recovery.
We are not talking about prosaic origins or identities. The material includes intact and partially intact vehicles.
— David Grusch, sworn testimony, July 26 2023
I was informed, in the course of my official duties, of a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse-engineering program to which I was denied access. People have been harmed, and I have witnessed that harm.
— David Grusch
The technology that we faced was far superior than anything that we had.
— Commander David Fravor, referring to the 2004 Nimitz Tic Tac
Graves: The Systemic Safety Issue
Ryan Graves, now Executive Director of Americans for Safe Aerospace, provided the most operational testimony: UAP are present in restricted US airspace on a regular basis, near-misses go unreported due to stigma, and current reporting mechanisms are inadequate. Graves estimated that for every reported incident, dozens go unreported because pilots fear career consequences. The safety implications alone — independent of any non-human origin question — represent a systemic failure of air domain awareness.
The Committee’s Response
Multiple committee members across both parties expressed frustration that classified briefings had been withheld from Congress. Rep. Tim Burchett submitted to the record a Defense Intelligence Reference Document on ‘Advanced Space Propulsion Based on Vacuum (Spacetime Metric) Engineering’ — a classified DIA paper describing propulsion physics consistent with observed UAP performance. The existence of this document in congressional record confirms the DIA had studied the relevant physics — and classified it.
Grusch’s Core Allegation
Grusch’s most specific on-record statement: non-human intelligence craft and biologics have been recovered by the US government and its allied partners. Programmes operating this material are run outside congressional oversight and outside standard security clearance architecture. People who have tried to come forward have been harmed. The IC Inspector General found his disclosure complaint ‘urgent and credible.’ None of this testimony has been refuted under oath.