May 06, 2025
Written By [Christopher Sharp](https://www.liberationtimes.com/?author=610434e320e3e945538177b1)
Written by [Christopher Sharp](https://twitter.com/ChrisUKSharp) \- 6 May 2025
IMMACULATE CONSTELLATION whistleblower Matthew Brown has revealed a bombshell claim: current Secretary of State Marco Rubio, when a Senator, confronted Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, then head of the Pentagon’s Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) office, about a secret ‘legacy program’ allegedly running for decades without Congressional oversight.
Brown told journalists [Jeremy Corbell](https://x.com/JeremyCorbell) and [George Knapp](https://x.com/g_knapp) that he read the transcript of the exchange while serving in the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security – the office to which the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO), formerly led by Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, reports on administrative matters.
Brown stated the transcript involved members of the Senate’s Intelligence and Armed Services Committees, including Senators Marco Rubio, Kirsten Gillibrand, and Elizabeth Warren.
According to Brown, it documented Senator Rubio pressing Dr. Kirkpatrick about a UAP legacy program, to which Kirkpatrick responded with vague answers and no clear denial.
Rubio, then the ranking Republican member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, asked, seemingly stunned:
“Well, what the hell is the Executive Branch doing? Have they been running this for 60 years without congressional oversight?”
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The exchange left Brown convinced: a monumental UAP cover-up has been unfolding within the U.S. government, hidden from democratic oversight.
Brown told Corbell and Knapp that his blood ran cold, stating he had “inside knowledge into the deception of our government by elements of our Intelligence Community.”
Reacting to Brown’s allegations relating to the transcript featuring Marco Rubio (which first aired in a preview for today’s WEAPONIZED episode), last week, Dr. Kirkpatrick [told New York Post journalist Steven Greenstreet](https://x.com/MiddleOfMayhem/status/1917364704948937064):
“That’s the biggest bunch of bullshit I’ve heard today. Either he’s illiterate, or he’s lying to gain fame. Either way, that’s not true.”
However, questions have emerged regarding Dr. Kirkpatrick’s past statements.
Brandon Fugal, owner of Skinwalker Ranch – a site long linked to UAP activity – has claimed that Dr. Kirkpatrick led a Senate Armed Services Committee briefing in 2018 focused on the ranch.
[According to Fugal](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1coot4g/if_kirkpatrick_was_already_aware_of_the_reality/?rdt=40563), before he began his presentation, Dr. Kirkpatrick said:
“Before we proceed any further, I want to establish and understand, all the gentlemen here, Mr Fugal, that you’re presenting to, are all very well aware of the reality of the UFO phenomena.
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“So please dispense with any part of your presentation that would seek to convince us of the reality, because we already know.”
In a 2024 interview with Steven Greenstreet, Dr. Kirkpatrick asserted that he had no prior interest in UAP before becoming AARO director in 2022 and denied attending any briefings related to Skinwalker Ranch or meeting Brandon Fugal.
Fugal then hit back, releasing a photograph purportedly from the 2018 briefing, showing Dr. Kirkpatrick in attendance while Fugal is presenting, severely undermining previous statements made to Greenstreet.
Fugal later [posted on X](https://x.com/BrandonFugal/status/1799279295006929296):
‘Lying, saying he never attended a detailed formal briefing specifically on Skinwalker Ranch on April 19, 2018 to government officials.
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‘Lying, saying he has never met me.
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‘Lying, saying he had no interest in the UFO topic prior to 2022.’
Brown Describes Second Event Involving Mysterious Triangular Object
Speaking to Corbell and Knapp on the _WEAPONIZED_ podcast (part one of three) which aired last week, whistleblower Brown [described discovering a report about an alleged Unacknowledged Special Access Program (USAP) called IMMACULATE CONSTELLATION on a classified Intelligence Community network.](https://www.liberationtimes.com/home/whistleblower-goes-public-on-immaculate-constellation-alleges-covert-us-program-monitoring-ufos)
According to Brown, the program was tasked with tracking advanced craft of both human and non-human origin.
In last week’s episode, Brown described a striking account he found within the report: a large triangular craft materialising above Russian Naval Intelligence vessels near the Kamchatka Peninsula, captured by a U.S. collection asset.
Brown shared further details from the IMMACULATE CONSTELLATION report in the latest WEAPONIZED episode, which aired today, describing another incident involving a triangular object and a Russian vessel in the Atlantic Ocean.
He noted that this triangular object appeared smaller than the one seen above the Russian ships by the Kamchatka Peninsula in the Pacific Ocean.
Brown told Corbell and Knapp:
“It \[the page citing the event\] shows another Russian intelligence vessel at night.
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“The image is green infrared, and it shows, above this Russian vessel, another black triangle.
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“But whereas the first example in the Pacific was an equilateral, large, pretty stunning object that was of comparable size to the vessels below it, this was definitely smaller than the vessel, and it was more angular in shape and sort of swept back.”
He added:
“There was no indication that the Russian vessel was responding in any way to this ship hovering above it, and it did not describe—in this instance—whether it had miraculously appeared or if it was tailing the ship.”
Brown also described seeing (within the report) “images of orbs transiting from coastal facilities out to the ocean.”
He described the systems that captured the orbs as ‘untasked assets,’ meaning they were not specifically designated to record the events.
However, the assets that captured two incidents involving hovering triangular objects above Russian naval vessels were, according to Brown, ‘tasked assets’ – meaning U.S. assets had been specifically positioned in the area to, in Brown’s words, “watch the Russians and the Russians’ interactions with this technology.”
Brown also confirmed that the images showing both instances of triangles above Russian vessels were freeze frames taken from video footage.
Matthew Brown’s Career
– Policy Advisor within The Office of the Secretary of Defense
– Technical Advisor within The Office of Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security
– Program Advisor within the United States Department of State.
How Brown Reported the Discovery Of IMMACULATE CONSTELLATION to Superiors
Upon discovering the pages devoted to IMMACULATE C
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